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Is the internet getting older?


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Today, when I look at the internet, I see a child born just after me that has grown beside me in ways I never expected.

When I was younger and the internet had just come into its first real glimpse of being what it is today, it was ruled by people eager to share knowledge with eachother and those who wished for a society fueled by freedom instead of fueled by profit. Money never factored into the picture because it had no importance to any of us. We were a young group of kids who drooled at the thought of a library like most kids drooled at the thought of a candy store. The biggest places to go were those that had the most information and those where the most information could be exchanged.

Then, as I grew into my teen years, the internet started to change as it grew even more popular, now fueled by an entirely different engine. As graphic cards became better and transfer rates accelerated to speeds faster than anyone thought should even be possible over dial-up lines, it turned into a world that could fulfill all the wet dreams of the millions of us who were just hitting puberty. Sex became so popular on the web that for a while it became an obstacle just to avoid finding it accidently, and most of the search engines out there couldn't keep up enough to filter out the porn sites when they weren't what was being searched for.

A few years later when I landed my first after school job, places like EBay and Amazon.com really started to boom into the economy, and for the first time we all started to see the birth of a corporate internet pouring through the wires, feeding the money hungry hands of those looking for some quick cash to satisfy their new needs and desires.

And now it seems about time for another big change to take place, so... What's the next big step in our evolution?
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My family never "plugged in" to the net, til I guess around 1996. My high school never got connected til after I graduated in 1996. So I never experienced the internet as you described. Although I can't say I haven't noticed changes since 1996.

We've seen the introduction of flash animation. I remember one of the first flash cartoon sites back in 97, which I think was SPUMCO.com, home of the creator of Ren & Stimpy.
Flash, CSS, and other improvements in webdesign have been pushed so far into the way we look and interact with webpages now, it's almost impossible to get anywhere without now. Almost of course. Flash isn't a requirement for all sites. Especially Secondshifters.com heh.

Commerce is also a big and important part of the internet today. I think it's good for the economy, but then again I hate it as well. It helped spawn the devil's tools of spyware, trojans, and SPAM. And each year it seems to double in size. I think we are at a point now where viruses are becoming a second-rate threat, and Spyware becoming more and more of a cumbersome annoyance. Ask yourself this: In 2004 where you hit more by viruses, or were you hit more by those wonderful IE search toolbars, and porn dialers? It's something to think about.
I see this becoming a bigger threat to us in the years to come.

That would be the negative side of the net. On the positive side, I see Online Gaming advancing. I see the emergance of true 3D designed websites, where you're videocard will fully come into play. Sorta like of what we saw in movies like "Johnny Pnuemonic", or the Book "Neuromancer".

I see in maybe 5 more years the introduction of T1 Lines in our homes. Speed and service providers need an advancement as well. I see Cable amd DSL prices dropping down. And a greater number of people connecting. I live in a ghetto right now, so I am probably say 5 out 300 residents here connected to the internet. That says alot believe me. But with the prices now down on dialup, alot of people around here are finally either getting a computer, or getting connected.

Finally the most alarming thing that has entered my mind since 2001, would be the introduction of censorship on the internet.
I have spoken to many intelligent people about this, and they all agree, the possibility is there. Not to get off on another rant here, but there are alot of coots out there would like to censor just about everything they find offensive. And the internet is definately one of those targets. So I see that becoming more of an issue in the years to come.

Ok I talk too much.. Goodbye heh.

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My family was never big on computers or even technology either, sure we had the usual tv and stuff, but we never got acomputer until i was 14 and in grade 9, so i guess, there are a lot of advancements that we can ake, but who really knows what the furture really holds for us....
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Mrf. Our family is big on computers. About as big as they get. We started getting them as soon as they came out. Starting with the Toshiba 110 or.. 1100 I cant remember. it came out in the 70's i think.. and uhm.. My uncle bought it for us.. $2,300 dollars. It does nothing but graph. It weighs 30lbs.. and in the book it says "Light and portable lap top!" HA!

At the age of 3 i was using a computer in DOS. Just to run a game i loved. XD .. it was like mario.. and waldo.. Maybe it was Waldo. I cant remember.

As soon as i discovered the internet. I've been addicted ever since. And now that im older.. and my parents are pretty much off my back, I continue to discover all this new stuff! Its GREAT. >.>

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My Family has never been all that big on the net either ...i remain the only person who knows how to completely use most programs and is adaptable to them all ...as to the porn on the net ..i knew about it long before i got on here contrary to any censorship group who may think they know know everything. Ahh as for when i first got on sex was barely discussed and only in pm if you were lucky i think most kids know about it before they hear of it on the net though. I still find the internet useful especially for school and meeting friends .... even though some things on the net id rather not have in existence ...its a price well worth the knowledge and insight you can find on here .. and i still remain the only 14 yr old in my school who has made thier own comp.

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At the age of 3 i was using a computer in DOS. Just to run a game i loved. XD .. it was like mario.. and waldo.. Maybe it was Waldo. I cant remember.

I used to run disney games through dos :lol: I also used an image editing program lol, god that was what? only 11 years ago now? Feels alot longer.

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Whats the next step? The internet Jihad of course! In one corner, Corporate E-merica will rule the waves with the awesome power of Microsoft. Already, you see the signs everywhere! Even here, the radio claims, "We Support the RIAA", whereas, if this was played in a foreign nation, any mp3 would be a standard medium. Pirate internet radio is the next step! And with Bush wanting to spread American Ideals to these countries, we could soon find that the spaces for freedom closeing their doors. The only real option to fight the corporation is to hack them on an external system, like the Macintosh! Why, with the Apple-Unix engine, the rebels would have a powerful ally.

lololololol. Ok, maybe i've lost my mind, but it is possible. Somewhat.

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What I am still waiting for is the internet's promise of bringing information to the world. We have "media" but not information. We keep getting more media, and I think that is the trend that will continue. As broadband gets into the rest of the nooks and crannies it has missed, the broadcasters will get even more streams online. The PC is the next BoobTube.

But it isn't all bad. More open-source projects are destined to be the norm. More open communities. More cross-polination of ideas and information. More quality internet radio (like SecondShifters). We don't need Pirate radio as long as we can still support stations like this one.

I look to Google to be the next bastion of availability. Sure they have that Froogle service and AdSense, but they are only helping people find stuff they'd be interested in buying. They have a new service that I have a lot of hope for, though.

They are providing http://print.google.com aka Google Print. This new service will let people doing a Google search find information from books. If this service gains even as much material as one library it will be a quantum leap forward in finding anything. Everything from novels to text books at our fingertips.

Why would publishers let people search their texts for free? When links to purchase are also provided, of course. Money still is the moving force, but wouldn't you buy a book if you KNEW it had what you were looking for? Maybe, but there's still libraries. At least it will move more information onto the Net.

*crossing fingers.
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What I am still waiting for is the internet's promise of bringing information to the world.


I sort of disagree with that one. There's information out there on the net. Take wikipedia.com for example. If I'm in the mood to look something up, I'll go there.
Media will always be first on the net. You just have to pick and weed through it to find what you need.

And I agree Pirate Radio on the net is sort of silly to think of, when the internet sort of governs itself. The only reason for Pirate Radio is to get away from Radio Standards, laws, and censorship. And from what knowledge I have on internet radio, I don't think there are many regulations to follow, except music copyright issues, and the RIAA. Other than that, I think you're free to do what you want.

Edited by ohgr, 23 January 2005 - 01:17 AM.


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I remember the way the internet used to be also. A friend of mine and I are actually trying to put up a website that is reminiscent of the way it was when it began.


site down

here is a poem for you I wrote a few months ago

Angel Poem


I am as the dream of an angel
I am amazing and terrible and more perfect then you could ever be
I will bring all those I meet pain
The light from me will burn all the imperfect spots of you
And if you can stand the pain long enough
Maybe you will become as perfect as I
And maybe
We can purify each other



hope this message isn't considered spam, i'll understand if it is

Edited by longdead, 22 December 2005 - 10:39 PM.


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I sort of disagree with that one. There's information out there on the net. Take wikipedia.com for example. If I'm in the mood to look something up, I'll go there.
Media will always be first on the net. You just have to pick and weed through it to find what you need.


I agree with that. I didn't mean to imply there was NO information out there, just the ratio is tragically skewed and there's too much weeding to do. Moreover, it seems the information comes with a price. TV/Magazine/News agencies have moved onto the net and charge to read articles. What started as the free exchange of ideas became the free-market exchange. I don't directly object since this has broadened the materials, it just limits the access.

Wikipedia and all Wiki-projects are the exception to this. I love Wikipedia and it is this project among others I was referring to by open-source communities. I mean this is the ultimate. Not only is it broad-based info, it's 99.44% unbiased, and anyone can write or modify the entries. It's a beautiful thing indeed. While Wikipedia isn't new, the general idea is and it has yet to take shape on the internet.

I took the idea of Wikipedia (and their open-source software) and created Theo, a Wiki for religious information exchange. The idea is simple -- by learning more about different religions, their beliefs, ideologies, etc., we can learn to get along better. (I hope.) But I alone cannot enter all information, as I don't know every point of view nor would think of every angle. Hence the open-ability for everyone who participate in building the encyclopedia of knowledge.

That is the promise I mean. Free information exchange.
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The internet is a whore... she's here for all to use and abuse if you want to pay for her services. She is a beautiful woman with only one tooth and raunchy makeup, and she will be here until the end of the civilized world... always here to be abused. She is owned by an elite group of conservative capitalists, only shared for their gain, only whored out to those with power...
She is no longer a free woman, she is opressed and forfeited to being molested by a billion grubby hands, all wanting their slice of greatness. She is heavily tatooed and peirced, but only one or two were her will, all else was just another man or woman trying to claim something that is not theirs... something that isn't really anyone's.
She is also an intelligent whore... here to offer her brain to the most educated to the least... all for a paltry sum. She has laced her genitals with cocaine, addicted us to her taste and forced us to come back for more... always for more. Always for profit... she is a genius in the sack, and everyone knows her name. Everyone knows at least a little about her abilities.
She can be found in every city... every state.. every nation... every continent... and although she is fast, she is good. She is very good. Good enough to allure those who have not tasted her to come with her, to orgasm deep inside and lick her afterwards, addicting always new members... to that fraternity of addicted minds...


Meh... my thoughts.
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WARNING: Following post may or may not be considered appropriate for children under the age of 18, use a strong artistic point of veiw and mindset while reading the following.

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The internet is a whore... she's here for all to use and abuse if you want to pay for her services. She is a beautiful woman with only one tooth and raunchy makeup, and she will be here until the end of the civilized world... always here to be abused. She is owned by an elite group of conservative capitalists, only shared for their gain, only whored out to those with power...
She is no longer a free woman, she is opressed and forfeited to being molested by a billion grubby hands, all wanting their slice of greatness. She is heavily tatooed and peirced, but only one or two were her will, all else was just another man or woman trying to claim something that is not theirs... something that isn't really anyone's.
She is also an intelligent whore... here to offer her brain to the most educated to the least... all for a paltry sum. She has laced her genitals with cocaine, addicted us to her taste and forced us to come back for more... always for more. Always for profit... she is a genius in the sack, and everyone knows her name. Everyone knows at least a little about her abilities.
She can be found in every city... every state.. every nation... every continent... and although she is fast, she is good. She is very good. Good enough to allure those who have not tasted her to come with her, to orgasm deep inside and lick her afterwards, addicting always new members... to that fraternity of addicted minds...


Meh... my thoughts.

That should go in the poetry section. That was good. Wow...

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Put it there if you wish, I would not mind.
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