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London attacks show need to stay on offence - Bush


By Caren Bohan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush praised the resilience of Londoners on Saturday after the deadly bombings there and pledged to "stay on the offence" in the war on terrorism as he urged Americans to remain on alert.

"In this dark hour, the people of Great Britain can know that the American people stand with them," Bush said in his weekly radio address.

"This week, there is great suffering in the city of London. Yet the British people are resilient, and they have faced brutal enemies before," he added.

British authorities have said the attacks bear the hallmarks of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, the Islamic militant group behind the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington.

The subway and bus bombings, which killed more than 50 people, occurred as Prime Minister Tony Blair hosted the Group of Eight leaders summit in Gleneagles, Scotland.

Delivering the Democratic radio address, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said the United States needs to find Osama bin Laden and also do more to secure America's railways and other infrastructure.

"We need to bring to justice those responsible -- and thus bring greater justice to the world," Reid said.

"We need to finally bring Osama bin Laden to account for his crimes," he said. "And we need to get much more serious about protecting America from attack -- about securing our roads and rails, our borders and bridges, our seaports and airports, our nuclear and chemical plants."

Democrats have long pushed for spending more money on security for domestic transit other than airlines, but Republicans have resisted.

After returning from the summit on Friday, Bush visited the British Embassy in Washington and signed a book of condolence and laid a wreath in front of the ambassador's residence.

Bush said the London attacks were a reminder of the "evil" of the September 11 attacks and underscored that the United States and its allies were fighting a "global war on terror."

"We will stay on the offence, fighting the terrorists abroad so we do not have to face them at home," Bush said.

The U.S. president warned Americans to stay vigilant.

"While we have no specific credible information suggesting an imminent attack in the United States, in light of the bombings in London, we have raised the threat level from elevated to high for our passenger rail, subway, and bus systems," Bush said.

"I urge all Americans to remain alert, and to report any suspicious activity to your local authorities," he said.

Late on Friday, U.S. security officials forced a flight from Paris to Chicago with 291 passengers on board to return to France while they checked the list of passengers, without giving a reason.

Bush plans to visit the FBI training academy at Quantico, Virginia, on Monday to deliver a speech discussing the London attacks, said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

"I expect he will talk about the strategy for winning the war on terrorism," McClellan said. "He'll talk about (how) in the short term, it's taking the fight to the enemy abroad and in the long term it's spreading freedom and democracy to defeat the extremist ideology of hatred and oppression."

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I am currently feeling more unsettled by the bombings than ever, more war on terrorism talk... I feel there is possibly another war, and also another opportunity for Bush to tighten an oddly close relationship with the United Kingdom.

There is also talk of a conspiracy behind the london bombings, although I can't quite remember the reasons behind it, I will re-post when I find out.

.... maybe I'm just paranoid.

Edited by Atnevon, 13 July 2005 - 07:32 PM.


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It's terrible that these bombings have occured...

No doubt in my mind about that...

But...I have a strange feeling about the london bombings....Blaming this on Osamas bunch just doesn't sit right with me.....I don't know....Somehow this is different...

And any chance bush can get to turn this into propaganda he will take....In my opinion....

"We need to finally bring Osama bin Laden to account for his crimes," he said. "And we need to get much more serious about protecting America from attack -- about securing our roads and rails, our borders and bridges, our seaports and airports, our nuclear and chemical plants."

How much more serious do they have to get? Will it get to the point where peoples freedoms and liberties are being trampled on all in the name of Homeland Security?

The whole War on Terror....
It's just too rediculous.....
How long is it going to drag on for?
*Tries to find words*
I can't express this in words....


A conspiracy? Must read about that......

Well these days...Paranoia has a place in almost everyones life now doesn't it?

Edited by SPyKE, 10 July 2005 - 11:13 AM.


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I would say other than Al-Qaeda, the next most likely suspect would be the IRA, who have bombed london before, a bomb in 1993 also caused damage to a train station.

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Will it get to the point where peoples freedoms and liberties are being trampled on all in the name of Homeland Security?

It's getting to that, they want to make identity cards mandatory; each and everyone of us will have to pay for one. Imagine this, I goto the train station I show my ID and I am dragged into an office and checked just because it shows up information about a previous crime, like petty theft.. or something else rather minimal. These electronic identity cards they want to bring in will contain every single piece of information obtainable about ourselves.

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O yes..thats right...

One of my dear friends was telling me about that....

Next I bet it'll be microchips or something.....

Tracking devices...

Bugs....

Might sound a tad farfetched now...... But how do we know what they do and don't know about us already?

Will people be discriminated against because of what is contained within their card?

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The answer to your last question is yes they will, and it is already happening. In american airports this very form of "Identity discrimination" happens. I have known people who have been taken aside because of information that resides by their name.

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So....

It's not enough to be discriminated against for the way someone looks for example....

Information is a very powerful thing these days...And the worst thing about it is that you can't really escape it....

And people could use it to gain money/more power...Information sells....


And whats to be done with the people who have black spots on their cards?
Will they be monitored even closer?
Will they be somehow punished even without their knowledge....
What happens when someone with malicious intent enters a database with everyones details on it?.....They have to keep the info somewhere....

I know I'm asking alot of questions..but thats the way it is...it raises more questions every way I think about it....

The future does not look bright to me....

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Well of course, the future is not bright... there is too much unbalance in the world for perfect social harmony. I think with the building of empire, industry and commercialisation; what has thought to be great is in fact the noticeable decline of civilisation.

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Real ID stuff... I think that they're going to place GPS chips onto them so they can track us where and when we go...I also know a group of people that are with me on this conspiracy...


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Sorry for the double post...

/me kicks Firefox.

Edited by robot, 10 July 2005 - 07:02 PM.

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Well of course, the future is not bright... there is too much unbalance in the world for perfect social harmony. I think with the building of empire, industry and commercialisation; what has thought to be great is in fact the noticeable decline of civilisation.

I agree...

But it was inevitable right?

With the evolution of humans/society....

Kinda reminds me of that Pearl Jam song...Do The Evolution...or something....Great filmclip...Really gets it in a nutshell...

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We are all sitting ducks, waiting for the world to collapse... and collapse it will, the world will become a poverty stricken place... back in the dark ages; kind of reminds me of Goldeneye.




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