[14:09] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow Interview. [14:10] Oh man. You MUST see a show (any show) at Red Rocks [14:11] Gah! Do I really sound like that? [14:11] Dude, I'm wit the band....(british accent) [14:11] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol Kimiko: I get the same way when I hear my own voice recording - hence my aversion to speaking on air lol [14:11] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL Kimiko!!! [14:11] heh, you are in the wrong business my friend.... [14:12] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Nothing wrong with your voice Kimiko [14:12] <@Atnevon> LOL [14:12] Aww, thanks. [14:12] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL Kimko: I speak though weird sound clips *nods* [14:12] <@Atnevon> I cheat - I dj live so I don't have to listen to myself [14:12] heh! ... [14:17] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I think I love that line 'Not talking about music anymore" (about MTV) way too true sadly. [14:18] we found an Mtv channel that does play videos [14:18] <@SanctuaryRTBH> MTV lost itself somewhere [14:18] Its' called Fuse [14:18] <@Atnevon> oO interesting [14:18] Hell MTV2 isn't doing anything with music hardly anymore. [14:18] I miss my Mtv [14:18] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: I was jsut gonna ask what MTV are you watching! [14:18] Fuse had Weezer on today... [14:18] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: I remember when you could hear new and unique things on MTV [14:18] It's all shows about the stars lives, not their music. [14:19] so do I remember [14:19] I hear rumor that there is an MtvX that plays punk, metal and industrial videos [14:19] how underground are you ? did you bore a hole underneath something and let it drop in on you? *snicker* [14:19] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Star: bad [14:19] I haven't found it anywhere though. [14:19] I work with a lot of pop producers in real life. I'm underground cause I'm nothing like them. [14:19] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: I think we need to look hard - there must be something [14:20] VH1 plays music still.....sort of [14:20] I'm trying to resurrect it here. I am trying to do a headbanger's ballesque show for local TV. When I get some confidence in it I am going to ship it to my buddy at Mtb [14:20] Mtv rather [14:21] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: I've never understood why underground couldn't be music for the masses. I mean - they must be just as bored with the same of same old as the rest of us are. (andI'm planning on testing my theory too) [14:21] That's all it is really. Music for the masses, just not marketed that way. [14:21] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: Seems you and I are of the same thought waves ;) [14:21] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: exactly. [14:22] <@Atnevon> I think the internet is helping to change what songs and bands can become popular in a huge way [14:22] I think alot of ebm and industrial is very accessible to the masses [14:22] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Change can never be made from the outside - you have to go INSIDE [14:22] You have to find it, which has gotten easier these days. It won't be fed to you though. [14:22] Maybe not Skinny Puppy and Download, but most of it would be palatable. [14:22] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: It is with things like Myspace. :) [14:22] I think that's why Atnevon & Co. have so many people that listen along with the net. So much of the music on the radio is molded from the same cookie cutter it seems. [14:23] <@SanctuaryRTBH> It's all about the bands and fans as far as we're concerned. [14:23] <@Atnevon> atnevon & co.? kind of sounds like a paper company for some reason [14:23] <@Atnevon> sorry, just had to throw that in there [14:23] it sounds like something else in my head, but i won't mention it here. it's rated NC-17 [14:23] And things like internet radio catching on has helped. :) [14:24] <@Atnevon> yes I think it has pseudosanct :) [14:24] <@Atnevon> and yes, the bands and fans are definitely what's important for us :) [14:24] very true. I very rarely listen to mainstream radio - I listen to CDs and internet. [14:24] Broadcast air is terrible these days. [14:24] Ah Oppenheimer. Gotta love it [14:25] I've listened to more bands cause of this station than from the radio in the last 15 years. [14:25] Exactly. [14:25] It's true, I don't even have any music radio stations programmed into my car stereo. I just can't stomach it [14:25] <@Atnevon> yay star! #06[14:26] * @RTB has freed himself from the duct tape and takes revenge on sanct by duct taping her to a wall [14:26] Little known fact that I originally wrote this song for a video game, but liked it so much that I hijacked it for the album. [14:26] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Well I remember Myth found the stats on internet radio vs mainstream and it was stunning on the rise of it. [14:26] <@Atnevon> I'm kind of lucky... I don't have to listen to am/fm except the one or two times a week I'm in my car [14:26] Don't let it go to your head Atnevon. I'll deflate you. [14:26] <@Atnevon> *runs and hides* [14:26] <@RTB> o.O [14:26] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOl @ hijacked. Good job. [14:26] which video game? [14:27] Something from sony that hasn't been released yet. [14:27] I put in a different track instead. [14:27] This was our attempt at a terror banana song.... [14:27] <@Atnevon> lol star. don't worry, I won't. I'm just glad sanctuary and I could bring new music to your ears :) [14:27] <@RTB> Game music is good [14:28] <@Atnevon> terror banana? [14:28] <@SanctuaryRTBH> RTB: So I'm learning [14:28] aggro tek [14:28] <@RTB> I went through Painkiller recently, and it's got some good stuff. [14:28] I was in an angry mood for this song. [14:28] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: Anger can be quite powerful. [14:28] Game music is becoming it's own niche now. [14:28] <@RTB> The irony is that I couldn't buy that game when I wanted it, no store had it [14:28] I also screamed the words from across the room into the microphone. lol [14:28] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol pseudosanct [14:28] Take the Final Fantasy series for instance....they have their own 100+ piece orchestra now. [14:29] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Yes the do Star [14:29] I have the World of Warcraft music on my IPOD [14:29] <@RTB> Nuts [14:29] It's very good [14:29] Yeah, I got a gig doing video game music because my buddy wanted something darker for a DC comic based game. [14:29] <@RTB> Your soul is being taken from you [14:29] terror banana sounds like a freeware game i saw once [14:29] <@RTB> wait [14:30] Star: probably should be. [14:30] <@RTB> There's the DC versus marvel comics game [14:30] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I've always said Music in Film (and this includes game stories) that if they screwed up the score - you might as well trash the whole film. ... [14:34] OMG! Attacked by my cat.... ... [14:35] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: what did it do? [14:35] It's a big kitty too... [14:35] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: okay - I believe you :) ... [14:35] Sanct: licked my arm. [14:35] But I wasn't expecting it. [14:35] <@SanctuaryRTBH> aweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee cute pseudosanct [14:36] It's a Norwegian Forest Cat, it's the size of a small pony [14:36] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: how big a kitty? [14:36] i want! [14:36] <@SanctuaryRTBH> GESHHHHHHHHHHH [14:36] It was tasting you for other cats [14:36] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Pictures of kitty??? [14:36] Well...maybe not that big. But about the size of a beagle. [14:36] <@Atnevon> oO. what do those look like? [14:36] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol Star [14:36] ooohhh on kitty! [14:36] They are big and fluffy. [14:36] <@Atnevon> really long hair? [14:36] There are pictures on my LJ. Eudoxia is the name [14:36] i've seen one before Atnevon. [14:37] Yep. Long haired and orange [14:37] Hi [14:37] <@SanctuaryRTBH> *claps* that was very good. [14:37] It would devour Minichrome on a bad day. [14:37] holy shit, i just google imaged'm...those are large kitties, lol [14:37] Thanks! #06[14:37] * @Atnevon claps too. Great job guys!!! [14:37] how do you type and talk at the same time? [14:38] good question [14:38] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Zeitgeist (Velvet Acid Christ Loomis Mix). [14:38] <@Atnevon> lol, well, that was pre-recorded talking :) [14:38] <@SanctuaryRTBH> ommmmmmmmmmmmmgg they is biggggg [14:38] Now it's time for the remix. [14:38] i'd type what i'm saying or say what i'm typing, lol [14:38] Ahh. [14:38] <@Atnevon> but there's actually a delay too [14:38] bleh...Kimiko. you should try typing, talking, writing AND cooking at the same time. [14:38] Whoa...heavy [14:38] <@Atnevon> *goes to google* [14:38] Brian from VAC is a friend of mine. He's interesting... [14:38] Ok, everyone google norwegian forest cat... [14:38] lol [14:38] http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Norwegian+Forest+Cat&spell=1 [14:38] to make it easier than everyone having to go google [14:39] <@SanctuaryRTBH> They have the faces of little lions [14:39] <@Atnevon> http://www.askanowner.com/_upload/1_2/attachments/post-6376-1100355474.jpg <-- eeeeps [14:39] <@SanctuaryRTBH> especially with that main [14:39] beautiful tho [14:39] Yes, they do look like lions. [14:39] yeah. He's what we have instead of kids... [14:39] <@SanctuaryRTBH> thats not a cat [14:39] Where can you see lions.... only in Kenya. [14:39] <@SanctuaryRTBH> that is a beast! [14:39] lol [14:40] with a fuzzy like that you don't need kids [14:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL kimiko - probably the better choice ;) [14:40] I agree. [14:40] <@Atnevon> kitties make good kids :) [14:40] We have a siamese too. She is cranky [14:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> yes kitties make the best kids [14:40] Fur-children. [14:40] they really do. [14:40] kids are expensive and take alot of patience. and that cat would eat a kid for a snack, lmao [14:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: Siamese have 'attitude' [14:40] *almost makes a comment there, but remembers to G-rate that thought* [14:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL don't kid yourself Opti - a well loved kitty - laos pricey [14:41] LOL [14:41] <@SanctuaryRTBH> also* [14:41] <@SanctuaryRTBH> god idea star :-p [14:41] Gorgeous kitties - but big! [14:41] pfft, i'm not spoiling my cat like that,. can't afford to. [14:41] i shouldn't even have animals, we can barely afford to feed ourselves sometimes, lol. [14:41] Oh man, our cats get filtered water, fancy food, they have little beds and toys [14:42] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Opti: But you give it love. Most important. [14:42] my cat eats dog food, lol. tho i'm usually nice and give her a bit of milk with tho.ce. [14:42] <@Atnevon> the station kitties have a filtered water thingy too actually, but they won't drink from it when it's running [14:42] dog food and tap water, with the occasional bit of chicken or something while i'm cooking. [14:42] o.0 [14:42] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: I understand all to well. One day I'll get another one, but losing my one in Jan (Shack) was way to painful. But I know one day I'll feel okay enough to do it again. [14:43] Heh, our cats get popcorn (without hot sauce) and they like Subway wrappers [14:43] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Voices. [14:43] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol @ subway [14:43] Aww. I am sorry for the loss of your kitty. There are plenty of good ones to adopt in the shelters. They are thankful and lovey. [14:43] my mom has one of my cats, Lil'Nicky, he climbs into my bf's car every time it's over there, and he even once opened the glove compartment to get at sunflower seeds. [14:43] whoa! [14:44] normally no...but the one I nicknamed MiniAtnevon eats hamburger [14:44] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: Thanks. And yes, my mom sits on the board for Humane Society here - I keep looking and wanting... and looking. I figure the right one will show up that needs me the most and I won't be able to refuse. I believe they pick us really. [14:45] Oh yeah. And they know that you saved them. That's what I love about shelter kitties. They are so thankful and grateful. [14:45] I wish I could have a kitty but hubby is allergic. :( [14:45] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I knows :( [14:45] <@SanctuaryRTBH> ppooppy allergy [14:45] We like kitties though. [14:45] my kitty was rescued from where my bf works. she was under a trash bin. [14:45] <@Atnevon> awww myth :( [14:45] agreed. Poopy! [14:45] I'm allergic too. I get shots. [14:45] heh. [14:45] <@Atnevon> oh no opti! that's horrible [14:45] <@Atnevon> glad you rescued him though [14:46] <@Atnevon> er... her [14:46] I volunteer at a Siamese rescue out here. I have to keep myself from taking them all home [14:46] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: exactly. I want to take one that needs me the most. So I waits until it picks me. One almost did the other day, a little stray under a porch. But it's mom came and go it - so wasn't for me. [14:46] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: it would be hard no to take them all. [14:46] Aww. One will pick you. They always do. [14:46] I got one of my kitties from a rescue place and he was sick when we got him but even after we nursed him back he was evil for years...Then he got sick and had to have this thyroid removed and now he's super lovable. [14:46] At first i thought she'd been born around there or something, but then I realized she was already house broken (thank god) so someone dumped her. poor thing. probably some idiot got a kitten for their small kid, it got a bit too playful and scratched the kid and they dumped her. Poor Pandora. but she's with us now. :) [14:46] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: I'm so surprised that siamese end up in shelters. [14:47] They are weird cats. they have very dominant personalities and get jealous very easily. [14:47] I think some people find them bossy and independent [14:47] Surprising that Siamese need a dedicated shelter for so many of them. [14:47] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Deathfey: he was probably just not well and when it got fixed up - it went good :) [14:47] i go to craigslist.com and i'm always wanting all the free animals people list on there. *sigh* cats, dogs, ferrets, snakes...lol [14:48] yeah now he always has to be in someone lap. [14:48] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: I know I do - every one of that type I met was veryyyyyyyyyy - well crazy lol [14:48] Aww my snookums is famous! #02[14:48] * Starphoenix Quit (Ping Timeout#) [14:48] I had a part siamese for almost 10 years before she passed, she was an odd cat. [14:48] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Unload. [14:48] Yeah, our rescue just raided a kitty mill for siamese. they are all sick and skinny and it's sad [14:48] aww [14:48] <@SanctuaryRTBH> :( Kimiko [14:49] They bounce back pretty fast though. Although they do hold a grudge, so some of them need some more time in foster care [14:49] <@SanctuaryRTBH> It makes my blood boil that people do that. [14:49] I don't know how come people can miss treat cats. [14:49] i hate when people mistreat animals. [14:49] <@Atnevon> kitty mill? as in breeding them? [14:49] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: Yes as they'd have to learn to trust people again. [14:49] my stepdad HATES cats (so of course my mom has several, lol), he'll kick'm if they get too close. [14:49] yeah. #03[14:49] * starphoenixkoroias has joined #darksites.com [14:49] wb [14:49] <@Atnevon> wb star [14:50] dang it .... [14:50] Hello! [14:50] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Atnevon: if Kimiko has a link to the shelter can we add that to their profile? (with their consent of course) [14:50] *takes out his shotgun and blows his ISP away* [14:50] <@SanctuaryRTBH> wb Star #03[14:50] * starphoenixkoroias is now known as Starphoenix [14:50] <@Atnevon> oh definitely! [14:50] <@Atnevon> great idea too! [14:50] sure..one sec. [14:50] ok...last thing i saw was something about shelter kitties and the POOF [14:50] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: We have a special section in the band profiles for causes they support. [14:50] wb star! [14:50] Sweet. [14:51] http://co.siameserescue.org/ [14:51] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Thanks Kimiko :) [14:51] that is so nice. Thank you [14:51] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: Our pleasure. ... [14:56] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I want to know when 'Darker Days Tomorrow' is going to tour. huh huh [14:57] heh, we do a pretty intense live show. It's hard to travel with. [14:57] that'd prove interesting...or at least a worldwide internet broadcast concert [14:57] Where should we tour? [14:57] arkasas [14:57] arkansas* [14:57] <@Atnevon> awww. too much equipment? [14:57] We played a very simplified version at Blacksun last year. It was fun [14:57] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Take No More. [14:58] we never get anyone good around here. not that i can often afford to get to concerts. lol [14:58] Projectors, live drums, 2 or 3 keyboardists guitar bass and two singers [14:58] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: Canada, USA - everywhere :) more importantly - where would you want to tour? [14:58] We can do it, but we need decent sized stages. #06[14:58] * @SanctuaryRTBH falls over [14:58] I have always like DC, Philly, NY, Atlanta, Seattle [14:58] Wisconsin was really good too [14:58] We've had good tours with the old band all over. Just haven't been able to get the time for a tour with DDT. [14:59] lmao, the last concert i paid for was Linkin Park back in college and we had Saliva on campus my senior year which was about three years ago. #06[14:59] * @RTB takes advantage of the situation #06[14:59] * @RTB tapes sanct to the floor [14:59] we got a pretty good sized set of venues here in North Carolina pseudosanct. [14:59] <@SanctuaryRTBH> rtb o.O [14:59] <@Atnevon> oh geeze... next will be the F word, lol (no, not that F word) [14:59] Do you know DJ Spider in NC [14:59] She is a really good friend of ours in Raliegh [14:59] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol wait - no next will be Sanctuary's doing ......... lol [14:59] vaguely. i'm a bit outta touch with certain aspects of life [14:59] The carolinas would definitely be on the list. We have a lot of friends there. [14:59] she wants us to play out there sometime [15:00] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: I was actually looking at her profile from your myspace [15:00] Raleigh, Greensboro, and Charlotte are good spots [15:00] Nice! She is awesome. [15:00] That scream hurts to think about to this day... [15:00] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: She seems it :) [15:00] Actually I would love to do a big east coast thing. It's easier to tour out there [15:00] scream psuedosanct? [15:00] Here in Denver it's 8-10 hours to anywhere #06[15:00] * Opticall sighs [15:00] In the song that's on. [15:01] i'ma have to move if i want to see decent performances. lol [15:01] arkansas sucks. [15:01] i didn't hear it <_< [15:01] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: A lot of bands seem to like the west coast - why would you rather the east? [15:01] If we play New Orleans again you could come to that... [15:01] We have friends all around the country but mainly on the coasts. [15:01] New Orleans was cool. [15:01] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: What did you like about it? [15:02] The west coast is OK these days, but I know a lot bigger scenes in cities out towards the east. [15:02] It just had a great old world vibe to it. Everything was exactly how I had imagined it was. We played it when Gothcon was still a big deal. [15:02] After reading all those Anne Rice books you get a feeling for a city. New Orleans lived up to it [15:02] before or after Katrina? I've never been to New Orleans, but I've heard it's nothing like it used to be anymore. [15:03] LA has some good stuff, and so do Portland and Seattle to an extent, but San Diego and San Fran are ghost towns. [15:03] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Nothing (Version). [15:03] We were in the band Emergence before DDT, so we did ALOT of touring with them [15:03] hurricanes have a tendency to do that Opti [15:03] Sadly, San Fran is.... [15:03] before. I have heard the same too. [15:03] At least for this scene. [15:04] I always wanted to do New Orleans, but never had the money, then Katrina hit and I've heard it's really not worth the time it takes to get there much less the money. [15:04] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Whats the one place you all would LOVE to go? [15:04] Germany. [15:04] Japan. [15:04] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Katrina was - beyond awful. [15:04] I heard there are parts of New Orleans that arejust done. Not even being bebuilt. [15:05] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Germany has a great scene. [15:05] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Japan seems to be a favorite too - why? ... [15:05] Japan is interesting to me. I'm very into eastern thought. #02[15:06] * DeathFey Quit (Connection Closed#) [15:06] He is learning Japanese and is way into Taoism. ... [15:22] Today is actually the Asatru holiday of Winter's Night. The time for the wild hunt has begun.... ... [15:23] So this song is based on a crappy tape recording that one of us took at an old carousel. Then we messed it up a bit. ... [15:23] I always thought it had subliminal messages in it [15:23] It does, from a tylenol commercial.... [15:23] <@Atnevon> oO to subliminal messages [15:23] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: SO what are we hunting? ... [15:24] What is Asatru ... [15:25] Is that the same as the Wild Hunt of European mythology? [15:25] Asatru is the official religion of Iceland, Norway and Finland. It is the viking mythology. Odin, Thor and such [15:25] exactly [15:25] North mythology and religion myth. [15:25] Sorry norse. [15:25] Pseudosanct is into Japanese culture and thought, I identify more with the Norse [15:25] Cat assaulting me again. [15:25] Different cat [15:25] Siamese. ... [15:26] do you have a good book on the mythos of ancient egypt. I would love the stories behind all of their deities [15:26] Ah, I had heard of that but not under the name of Asatru [15:26] *cackles at an evil thought* [15:26] I studied philosophy and religion in college. I am just fascinated by it [15:26] *Looks at star* No! [15:27] yeah, Asatru is the neo-pagan term for it [15:27] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol pseudosanct is getting attacked again - more licking? [15:27] Yes. [15:28] <@Atnevon> They must think you taste good if it's more than one licking you pseudosanct, lol [15:28] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - I Live. [15:28] My cat is shaved... [15:28] He haz a flavor [15:28] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol @ a flavour #03[15:28] * Opticallusion has joined #darksites.com [15:28] saw on the info on Norweigan Forest Cats that they like to mother everyone #02[15:28] * Opticallusion Quit (Connection Closed#) [15:28] damnit [15:28] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Wb opti? [15:28] <@Atnevon> I think we kidnapped opti twice, lol [15:28] no, i was trying for the forums and forgot the site auto brings you to chat, lol [15:29] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol [15:29] Ours kind of does. When Pseudosanct goes out of town for business, he becomes the man of the house and stands guard for me [15:29] <@SanctuaryRTBH> aweeee [15:29] <@Atnevon> good kitty :) [15:29] Its cute. [15:31] and by the way, the bird-headed egyptian guy was named Horus [15:31] at least one of them was called that. [15:31] Oh yeah. He was the hawk guy. And who was the crane? [15:31] Our forest cat is named Kirin. He kinda looks like one [15:32] I'll have to look up my old D&D notes.... I had to research 8 different ancient cultures when i created my campaign setting years ago. [15:32] If you find a good book that tells the stories of all the gods, pass it onto the band site. I would love to research it [15:32] if i find my old notes...i can do you 10 better [15:32] badass [15:33] that if assumes i can go through 25 boxes worth of handwritten papers [15:33] <@Atnevon> Just for reference for anybody reading this later, you can find the band's site and myspace links at:http://www.secondshifters.com/artist/Darker_Days_Tomorrow&view=detailed [15:33] yikes [15:33] well done.... [15:34] i was bored as a kid...so along with other things i spent time doing D&D. i had notes on everything from ancient Egypt to mechanical designs for early-era biplanes [15:34] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Hold Me Down. [15:34] Yeah we are thinking of doing a remix contest soon. The winners get to be on the next DDT remix album [15:34] <@Atnevon> oh neat! [15:34] that sounds fun Kimiko [15:35] We are having alot of our other band friends do remixes and then we are going to release it all on a CD [15:35] I think we have God Project, Fiction 8, DJ Luminal, maybe VAC and Lost Signal again [15:36] Did I miss anyone Pseudosanct? [15:36] <@SanctuaryRTBH> That's an excellent idea! [15:36] <@Atnevon> sounds like some bands we may have to check out :) [15:36] Derma-tek, interface and a few others on board as well. [15:37] Plus Novus UK, Deviant UK and Flesh Eating Foundation have expressed interest [15:37] might have to be a double CD set.... [15:37] lol [15:37] LOL [15:37] <@SanctuaryRTBH> How do you feel about listening to other band interpretations (via remixes)? [15:37] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL Kimiko : I think you just might! [15:37] It's interesting. I usually learn something I didn't realize about my music from it. [15:37] You know, there are songs that I like better than the originals. There is one band (who shall remain nameless) that is turns out I like what people do to their songs more than I like them [15:38] Remixes are a cool vehicle to change the expression of a song. [15:38] I do like hearing what other people can do with our stuff. I like bands that aren't afriad to take chances. Some bands are real nervous about remixes for fear of insult or something [15:39] pseudosanct, at least -sometimes- it is...i've heard remixes that totally murder a song [15:39] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Harbinger. [15:39] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I think there might be a respect thing when working with another bands material. [15:39] exactly how does a remix work? [15:39] random question about covers: can you just go "hey, i want to do this song" and do it, or do you hve to get permission from the original artist? Something i've always wondered... [15:39] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Good question Myth [15:39] <@SanctuaryRTBH> and Opti [15:39] You need to purchase a license to do it. [15:39] We are in the process of doing that for the Peter Murphy song [15:40] Remixes are generally sent in multitrack format so that another band can play with the material and make something new. [15:40] For live you can do whatever I have heard, but to record it you need to buy a license [15:40] Of course they have access to old the old material so they can use that too. [15:40] can you be denied a license for it? [15:40] No, just have to pay for it is all. [15:40] so the original tracks are used - the remixing band doesn't add any new ones? [15:40] I suppose you can. I have heard that Prince denies all license [15:41] Weird Al tried to do a song. But that might be different [15:41] Generally the remixing band does add a lot of new stuff. It's a mix of both, ... [15:41] Most bands are happy to have the money and the extra exposure [15:41] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Ground Zero. [15:41] Kimiko, some people don't like what Weird Al does. Eminem had a beef with him too. [15:41] i like weird al for the most part [15:41] yeah. But those people are stupid [15:41] I think he's very clever [15:42] I like Weird Al Saw him live and he and his band really impressed me. [15:42] there are other artists/bands that think when Weird Al does what he does, that they've truly "made it" in music [15:42] I just heard the original song for White and Nerdy. And it is amazing [15:42] Nirvana said just that [15:42] <@SanctuaryRTBH> During remix - at any point can the original author deny usage? [15:42] Riding' Dirty by Chamillionaire. yeah. kinda weird ain't it? [15:42] I know, was it Coolio that did Gangster Paradise? Who ever that was had a HUGE problem with Wierd Al. [15:42] I don't think so. You can remix whatever you want. [15:43] I would think it would be difficult to play proficiently in all of those styles - and he does a darn good job with it. [15:43] It's funny. One of the members of the Gothsicles (if you don't know them, check them out they are hilarious) just passed the bar. I am hoping she can help me with some of these legal questions [15:43] Michael Jackson had a beef the first time, but afterwards he let it roll. Then again...it is MJ after all [15:43] Weird Al had the entire 501st stormtrooper brigade onstage with him to do the Saga Begins here in Denver [15:44] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: At the end of the day - even the independent artists are subject to all these laws and rules. Any one of them grate on your nerves? [15:44] Love it! [15:44] <@SanctuaryRTBH> That you've come across that is. [15:44] As in laws that grate on me? [15:44] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Yes. sorry. [15:45] I don't like the laws against downloading. I am one of the few artists that fully supports downloading music [15:45] I guess there was a big one just passed last week. It is ridiculous. [15:45] but - the band would have to provide the original tracks for the remix so you could say at the beginning - nope - you can't do a remix for that song. [15:45] I would think [15:45] sometimes. There are DJs that will take CD tracks and add stuff on top of that. [15:45] <@SanctuaryRTBH> What one Kimiko? [15:45] So really, you can do it without the original band ever knowing [15:45] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Desperate (Lost Signal Remix). [15:46] <@SanctuaryRTBH> True. [15:46] there's too much stupidity cause the big money labels are trying to hose people for more money and these wacky laws get shoved down your throat. [15:46] I think it hurts independent music the most [15:47] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Agreed that it does it hurt them the most. [15:47] truly does. playing the internet is getting harder despite the countermeasures being thrown, and then you can't even download stuff. [15:47] the bands don't make money from CD sales anyway, even with "real" labels. The money is all in merch and live shows. Which is why we try so hard to do a big live show [15:47] and xm radio isn't that much better anymore. it sounds like standard broadcast radio for the most part. [15:47] <@SanctuaryRTBH> In Canada - you can download - but not upload. I somewhat like this - as it would mean it's kept in the artists control. [15:48] that's a cool idea [15:49] Yeah, when I started Erisian Records, it's a fully non profit record label. I do not make 1 dollar from any band [15:49] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I think so. If it could be followed well - it would mean the control was in the artists as to the "Yes you can download" or "No we don't want that" [15:49] <@Atnevon> I think canada definitely had a smarter and more realistic approach in that... you just can't realistically prosecute *everyone* that downloads a song [15:49] Emergence was signed by a "real" label. And to this day I have never gotten a check. [15:50] <@Atnevon> very neat kimiko [15:50] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko - How do you like being on the other end of the business side. (Even as a not-for-profit.) [15:51] besides, a download could lead to sales across the board. sure some people are just moochers, but there's probably a good portion of people that would pay afterwards. [15:51] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Degrade. [15:51] Sometimes better, sometimes worse. I am not very good at the politics involved with being in a band. Being a girl, I have gotten a lot of flak for trying to play in the boy's club [15:51] bring a flak vest and a streetsweeper. that'll teach em *cackle* [15:51] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: Believe you me - I understand that one. [15:52] I think most people do buy eventually. If they don't then they will show it to a friend who doesn't know what a torrent is and get it from Itunes [15:52] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimko: Got a link for your label? [15:52] yeah, I was told once by a guy that I need to "suck my way to the top like every other bitch in this business does" [15:52] It was awesome. [15:52] heh. if i knew where to find a torrent i'd probably use it. i do it the hard way. visit a site, listen to a clip, hope it plays somewhere else. [15:52] Yes I do. 1 sec. [15:53] <@Atnevon> oh geeze :( [15:53] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh again, I understand too well. [15:53] www.erisianrecords.com/ [15:53] www.erisianrecords.com [15:53] <@SanctuaryRTBH> ty ty ty [15:53] sorry, hit paste twice [15:53] Hmm....did pseudosanct get devoured by his cat finally? [15:53] <@SanctuaryRTBH> thats okay [15:53] we just got alot of new UK bands on the label that aren't up on the site yet. Waiting for the official contracts and such [15:54] <@Atnevon> you're fine, no worries at all. maybe it'll get people to click twice :) [15:54] No, he's here [15:54] lol [15:54] Nope I'm here. Just reading. [15:54] ....why does your label name sound familiar though? [15:54] because we are so famous! [15:54] lol [15:54] its a discordian thing [15:54] Not much to add when it comes to the business side. I'm in business for a day job so I hate dealing with it in music. lol [15:54] nah, that's usually not the case with me. [15:54] Eris, apple of discord [15:55] <@SanctuaryRTBH> added to your bio page [15:55] joy! [15:55] <@Atnevon> go sanctuary! [15:55] i find things like that in obscure and disturbing manners [15:55] <@SanctuaryRTBH> added the rescue too [15:55] yay! [15:55] <@SanctuaryRTBH> :) [15:55] Erisian records has really become it's own beast. It's very interesting who's on it and how it's grown recently. [15:55] Yeah, like I said, I studied religion, so I am really into all the weird underground stuff [15:55] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Complete. [15:56] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: Sadly art has a business side. :( [15:56] I am an accountant and HR manager for a RL job, so I handle most of that [15:56] Yeah. That's why I love Kimiko! [15:56] She's good at it. [15:56] [15:56] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Well with DJ Ferret (Ferret Label) gone *CRIES* it's going to open up a lot. [15:56] Go accountants! [15:56] hehe...i'm getting a crash warning from my pc again...trying to access the site [15:57] kick it [15:57] yeah. That is why I think Erisian has taken off a bit. It's all about artists, and not money. It's a complete co-op [15:57] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I think Kimiko is going to beat pseudosanct after this. [15:57] i can provide some toys for that purpose [15:58] One of the bands has a traveling light rig and sound system for big venues, we have a recording studio and mastering studio, another one is a touring guru [15:58] we all work together [15:58] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: I think that's the best way to approach it. Money is good for food but I think people loss themselves when they love it. [15:59] Exactly. I don't tell the bands what kind of music to make, and what to do with it. It's all their dream and their baby [15:59] yay. my browser puked on it >.< [15:59] We do erisian as a not for profit to prove that we just like helping people. No monetary gains means no other motivation. [15:59] Shameless plug time...Pseudosanct is an amazing mastering engineer. If you need mastering he will do it right! [15:59] Ok,, I'm done.... [16:00] yay for pukey browsers! [16:00] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Burn Your Bridges. [16:00] :) [16:00] Buy a Mac, they are just better [16:00] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kimiko: lol [16:00] OK, here's an oldie... This was almost an emergence song. [16:00] heh. yeah [16:01] i dunno....how old is your label guys? [16:01] 2006 I think [16:01] Yeah. It started slow, mainly as something to build on for distro for us and another band. [16:01] then recently it exploded into something big [16:02] <@Atnevon> I'll email you guys about this a little later, but Sanctuary and I would be glad to help you guys out with some stuff for your label if you'd be interested. [16:02] <@SanctuaryRTBH> All good things take time to grow. #06[16:02] * @RTB ninjapokes sanct [16:02] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL Rtb [16:02] Atnevon-I would like that. Email me. [16:02] sheep on drugs? heh [16:03] <@SanctuaryRTBH> *dances around more* [16:03] We are putting together a compilation disc with our new UK partner, Rebco. It should be coming out before Xmas [16:03] Does this sound like Sheep on Drugs? [16:03] With bands like ficiton 8 (close friends of ours) and Deviant UK we have a good thing going. [16:03] I can only stand that Motorbike song from them.... [16:03] Really, sheep on drugs? [16:04] I love their band name. [16:04] no...i was just reading that before your site blinked out on me [16:04] ahh, I see. [16:04] something about sheep on drugs. [16:04] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Blind. [16:05] now i need to go read it. What did I say about Sheep on Drugs.... [16:05] <@SanctuaryRTBH> kay I have to ask [16:05] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: Is Sanct short for Sanctuary or something else? [16:05] Death Metal, sheep on drugs .... [16:05] <@Atnevon> lol. I'm curious on that too [16:05] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol Kimiko - I don't think you did lol [16:05] Sanctimonious actually. [16:06] the term "sanct" is latin for something. cause there are terms like sanctuary and sacrosanct [16:06] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Cool [16:06] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Yes it is star [16:06] but i kicked God in the nads too many times so he won't tell me [16:06] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Sanctus is the Latin word for holy or saint [16:07] See many definitions... [16:07] <@SanctuaryRTBH> too many - why i had to ask [16:07] lol [16:07] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I'm like fake .. fake what???? [16:07] you're fake something? must be the hair then [16:07] <@SanctuaryRTBH> So thank you :) That makes sense. [16:07] lol [16:08] lol [16:08] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol Star [16:08] i got a good angora wig for that. [16:08] I have a squidhead hairpiece for that too.... [16:08] I just ate a protein bar that tasted like wet cardboard. [16:08] <@SanctuaryRTBH> *smacks Star* [16:08] lol #03[16:08] * Guest4101 has joined #darksites.com [16:08] <@Atnevon> oh hey, I just remembered something I wanted to ask too. let me find it here. I'm a little disorganized [16:08] <@SanctuaryRTBH> ewwwww pseudosanct [16:09] nah...never. You? [16:09] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - After the Storm (Version). [16:09] Delicious! #02[16:09] * Guest4101 Quit (Connection Closed#) [16:09] I remember when powerbars first came out and they tasted kinda strange [16:09] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Okay if Imma gonna eat - Imma eating something yummy [16:09] Agreed. It was there... [16:09] <@SanctuaryRTBH> and we are bake to foooooooooooooooooooodddddd [16:09] Sanctuary...i have a plate of something in my fridge you'd like [16:09] I thought, well this can't be too bad... #06[16:09] * @RTB pokes sanct regardless [16:09] <@SanctuaryRTBH> no thanks Star [16:10] <@SanctuaryRTBH> RTB lol [16:10] <@SanctuaryRTBH> all the love pokes from RTB [16:10] it's bison [16:10] ugh, my bf's sister seems to have slept when common sense and courtesy were being passed out. *head desk* [16:10] <@SanctuaryRTBH> no thanks [16:10] <@Atnevon> "The world as we know it is going to end and this is the soundtrack." <-- I was curious how you came up with that in your bio. [16:10] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Opti *hugs* [16:10] hmm....poking Sanctuary publicly? [16:10] <@RTB> o.o [16:11] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol [16:11] Well, really, it comes from the fact that these past few years all the news is bad, and it seem slike we have nothing to look forward to. [16:11] *helps RTB poke around* [16:11] I make music to point out the ironies of life. It's a soundtrack to follow the movie. I like to think of that movie as a comedy. [16:11] :) [16:11] <@SanctuaryRTBH> :) [16:12] <@SanctuaryRTBH> "god is a comedian playing to an audience with no sense of humour" [16:12] I love that! [16:12] and Satan is the straight man without a clue. [16:12] It's true. It's usually not funny anymore. [16:12] <@SanctuaryRTBH> me too - one of my fav quotes [16:12] who is that Oscar Wilde or something? [16:12] accessing google..... [16:13] That's part of the reason that most of the songs aren't about anyone specifically. The meaning can be translated to anyone who is listening to DDT. [16:13] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Not sure really [16:13] i'm of the thinking that the world will never end because i'd have to go back to where the universe started and God and Satan already knows what'll happen. The Earth is the only safe place for me to be. #06[16:13] * @RTB puts a curtain around sanct #06[16:13] * @RTB pokes sanct unseen [16:13] The world might not end, but humanity certainly could. [16:14] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Voltaire said something similar [16:14] i put a webcam in there. [16:14] *awesome speller. [16:14] oh Voltaire, I should've known [16:14] <@RTB> o.o [16:14] RTB, a sheer curtain probably wasn't the best choice... [16:14] <@RTB> Should've done a brick wall [16:14] that won't help either. [16:14] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: no, you just are a typo king like me - only i am queen. :) [16:14] Sweet! [16:14] queen of what though? >_> [16:15] <@SanctuaryRTBH> "GOD is a comedian, playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. Voltaire " [16:15] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Darker Days Tomorrow - Zeitgeist. [16:15] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Typos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [16:15] oh...you aren't Queen of Typos. that position was taken before you were born [16:15] <@SanctuaryRTBH> pseudosanct: Do you believe its all bad news - or a method used to keep people in fear? [16:15] I'd like to be the queen of Type O....heh [16:15] <@SanctuaryRTBH> ha ha lol [16:15] bad news sells, so that's what the media shows us. [16:15] I believe that good news isn't entertaining. [16:15] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL Kimiko!!! [16:16] thankee.... [16:16] <@SanctuaryRTBH> yw [16:16] is that what you call that thing on you shoulders >_> [16:16] If I told you that the economy really isn't that bad and it will recover most people either wouldn't care or believe me. [16:16] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Type O � purrs a little [16:16]