[12:28] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Somewhere Before.
[12:28] <@Atnevon> I wanted to start out our session here by saying thank you both Kemi and Roman for joining us for our interview and chat series.  It is truly an honor to have you aboard.  Your talent and dedication to your music shows through in every song we've ever heard from you.
[12:28] <+kemi> man o roman
[12:29] <+kemi> thanks
[12:29] <@SanctuaryRTBH> For the guests - please don't be alarmed if you have no voice - chat is moderated for a time.
[12:29] <+kemi> it's nice that you appreciate our work
[12:30] <+kemi> we do it whit lot's of love and dedication 
[12:30] <@Atnevon> Our first question was emailed into us by 'Cenobite', who wanted to ask a question related to how Sanctuary, our co-admin, was able to discover your music:
[12:30] <@Atnevon> Cenobite asked:  "What was it like working with Rogue from the Cruxshadows for the song Open Your Eyes?"
[12:31] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Rogue is very professional and it was just great doing this song with him
[12:31] <+kemi> That went really easy and great..., it went very natural and did not took long actually, felt like magic
[12:32] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> They did a show close to the studio the day we did open your eyes and things came together as it was meant to be
[12:33] <+kemi> Rogue works also quite intuitive like me so we just more or less sang and wrote easy together
[12:33] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Song of the Sirenes.
[12:33] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Along those lines- working with other musicians - Mythhorn - who sadly couldn't be with us today - asked about collaborations and remixes - How does that work for you? Do the bands approach you? Is it something that just happens?
[12:34] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> It's always different. 
[12:34] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> We just finished remixes for Lunascape and Information Society
[12:34] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> The other way around it happens that we ask bands or bands offer remix exchanges
[12:34] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Spin Moon Magic.
[12:35] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Vigilante just mailed a remix and asked if we could do one for them
[12:35] <+kemi> We exchange a lot and sometimes we are nicely surprised by the spontaneous actions of other bands who just appreciate us, like Vigilante
[12:36] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Angels and Agony and Karl from Born from Pain are friends
[12:36] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> still you ask :-)
[12:36] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> That's politeness :-)
[12:36] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Is there anyone whom you'd like to exchange like that with - that you've not had the opportunity as of yet to work with?
[12:36] <+kemi> Hungry Lucy made a beautiful remix, we actually played with them at  Dracula's Ball in the Trocadero Theatre 
[12:37] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL It's good that there is politeness - even among friends.
[12:37] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Still in contact with Gothminister. Hope it will work out one day
[12:37] <+kemi> yesssss
[12:37] <+kemi> what about Type o Negative
[12:37] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Peter Tetgren from Pain is definitely on top of my list
[12:37] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> NIN
[12:37] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I did hear with the podcast they are an influence of yours.
[12:37] <+kemi> although with did do a tribute to them on the tribute album..., 
[12:38] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Kemi likes Peter Steel ;-)
[12:38] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - The Divine.
[12:38] <+kemi> I would definitely like to be mixed by Nine Inch NAILS:)
[12:39] <+kemi> He not that much he Romano
[12:39] <@SanctuaryRTBH> That would prove I think really interesting NIN
[12:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I think Roamn jsut let a cat out of the bag Kemi ;)
[12:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Ignore my typos
[12:40] <+kemi> no no no
[12:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I blame the keyboard
[12:40] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> wihctypos?
[12:40] <+kemi> so do I:)
[12:40] <@Atnevon> Okay, our next question comes from Sinister Angel:
#06[12:40] * @SanctuaryRTBH spits out her tea 
[12:41] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol
[12:41] <@Atnevon> Sinister Angel asked: "Your site said that your 3rd release, Apaka, was a turning point for you as a band.  What  made this particular album different from the others you had released up to that point?"
[12:41] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Kemi?
[12:41] <+kemi> I produces everything myself here..., hard job but was necessary
[12:41] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> It was before my time
[12:42] <+kemi> yep, roman was not born yet within The Dreamside
[12:42] <@SanctuaryRTBH> wow - that's quite the undertaking Kemi.
[12:42] <+kemi> yep
[12:42] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Is that in part because you are an independent band?
[12:43] <@SanctuaryRTBH> You get more freedom that way?
[12:43] <+kemi> Yes i think that has to do with it
[12:43] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I think as being an indie band indeed you have more freedom in artistic ways however very limited budgets make things also quite more difficult
[12:44] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> There are loads of ideas 
[12:44] <+kemi> But the thing is that Roman and I have really strong ideas and are both also producers so we want to bring our art to life
[12:44] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> but they also cost 
[12:44] <@SanctuaryRTBH> True on the budgets - but I see there is no compromise to the music.
[12:44] <+kemi> no
[12:44] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> But in a way I believe it's the creativity out of this situation that makes indie bands sexy and influence majors 
[12:44] <+kemi> no compromise what so ever to the music
[12:45] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I agree on both accounts. With that in mind - what are some of the best ways fans can support what you do?
[12:45] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - The Feast Is Set.
[12:45] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Besides – of course - buying your art?
[12:45] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Think buying and not downloading for starters. 
[12:46] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Coming to the shows
[12:46] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Receiving mails with what our music does to people is certainly a big push for me to go on
[12:46] <+kemi> I think we have to develop new ways because it's getting harder and harder to be a musician like this
[12:47] <+kemi> and yes!!!!!!!!Visit our shows and help to keep some magic in the air!!!!!!
[12:47] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Received mails from soldiers in Iraq that our music helped them in mentally difficult situations
[12:47] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> That touches
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[12:47] <@SanctuaryRTBH> That it is the one thing I have noticed - with the new technologies - came both set backs and greater avenues. Do you find you need to tour more as a result of these changes?
[12:47] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Roman: that is amazing to get a letter about. :)
[12:48] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes, I see the need, however it seems nothing except for consuming music became easier in this industry through the years
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[12:48] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Many bands offer pay to play
[12:49] <+kemi> And about the home front, Slay your Dragons, a  young women with two kids with her husband in war...., she got strength from the song
[12:49] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Satyrian - Haunted.
[12:49] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Since we have a crew to pay and try to offer something special live it makes it not particular easier to be competitive
[12:49] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Slay your dragons is a powerful song. :)
[12:49] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> It is...
[12:50] <+kemi> OK. we admit life is really getting harder and harder for us..., alternative musicians, but we are here to stay
[12:50] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes. Making music is still fun :-)
[12:50] <+kemi> Slay your Dragons, i also sing for personal reasons of course
[12:51] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Long time ago I heard Satyrian.
[12:51] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kemi: Thats one thing I recognise  and sympathize with the indy artists on. I'm certain it takes a toll but I'm glad you are here to stay.
[12:51] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Satyrian - that is another band you play with. Can you say a little on that project?
[12:52] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Kemi and I sing
[12:52] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Merijn (our drummer) drums
[12:52] <+kemi> Its band leader is a Finn
[12:52] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Ex Lacrimosa guitar player Jan Yyrlund is the mastermind behind the project
[12:53] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> A true Fin
[12:53] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Do you say that "Fin"?
[12:53] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Satyrian - This Dream.
[12:53] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL
[12:53] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Yep Fin
[12:53] <@SanctuaryRTBH> or Finn
[12:53] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Ok
[12:53] <+kemi> We went to Finland on tour with Satyrian and we did a show and after that at 4 in the night the sun is shining...,
[12:53] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> No day without having learned something...
[12:54] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Sounds like a place you'd like to return at some point?
[12:54] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> The Nordics are a great place to be.
[12:54] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Playing there was and is a strange but great experience.
[12:54] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Strange in what way ;)
[12:54] <+kemi> There is actually almost nothing, but a lot of trees, lakes and deers..., quite beautiful nature but it feels a bit strange
[12:55] <@SanctuaryRTBH> thats it I'm officially moving to Finland.
[12:55] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> We did a open air festival in the middle of no where and I believe there are more moose then inhabitants
[12:55] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol
[12:55] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> That's strange
[12:55] <+kemi> and Finns are quite closed..., you never know what is going on in their mind..., and if they start to drink they just don't stop..., really:)
[12:55] <@SanctuaryRTBH> That would be a unique experience.
[12:56] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> It was
[12:56] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Kemi is named after the city "Kemi" in Finland
[12:56] <@SanctuaryRTBH> very nice.
[12:56] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> we passed that city 
[12:56] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> which was nice indeed
[12:56] <+kemi> at 4 in the night 
[12:56] <@SanctuaryRTBH> A good match then to her name.
[12:56] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I had to kick you out of the bus
[12:56] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol
[12:57] <+kemi> oeps
[12:57] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I hope she had warm clothes!
[12:57] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I did not get used to the sun shining 24 hours a day and slept 6 hours in one week
#06[12:57] * @RTB pokes kemi
[12:57] <@RTB> Dutchie!
[12:57] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> That was strange too
[12:58] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol RTB
[12:58] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - In Longing.
[12:58] <+kemi> it was quite spontaneous, i really did not know that we were there..., but one thing less on my list  of things to do in life., it was really on it
[12:58] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Hope the list is still long
[12:58] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Me too
[12:58] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Mine gets longer
[12:58] <@SanctuaryRTBH> 6 hours of sleep would - be hard.
[12:58] <+kemi> Yes it is enormous
[12:59] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> It is
[12:59] <+kemi> mousy
[12:59] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Keep it that way. The lists.
[12:59] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Interesting in a way
[12:59] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I know someone had a question regarding names didn't they Atnevon?
[12:59] <+kemi> next up is to fly with a balloon, i don't know how you say that in English
[12:59] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Balloon rides - hot air?
[12:59] <@Atnevon> Yes they did :)
[12:59] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Hot air balloons
[12:59] <@SanctuaryRTBH>  I think is what you mean?
[13:00] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I am loosing it...
[13:00] <@Atnevon> SleepVixen noted something interesting that appeared in your blog at Myspace.  Apparently, The Dreamside has had two  streets named after them in Bakersfield California: Kemi street and Dreamside Way.  What did you feel as a group  when you found out about this?  Also, do you plan on touring in California in the near future to walk down these  streets?
[13:00] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Roman: I lost is years back - so don't worry
[13:00] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> :-)
[13:00] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Roman*
#06[13:00] * @SanctuaryRTBH kicks her keyboard
[13:00] <@RTB> sanct is a certified nutty.
[13:00] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Rtb: tis why you loves me
[13:00] <+kemi> ye I would love to walk those streets..., of course its on my list:)
[13:00] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> One day we received a mail from the PM of Bakersfield, responsible for naming streets. 
[13:01] <@SanctuaryRTBH> a letter?
#06[13:01] * @RTB pets Sanct
[13:01] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> MySpace mail
[13:01] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> We first thought it's a hoax
[13:01] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I bet
[13:01] <+kemi> and when we are there we might as well play some fine gigs..,
[13:01] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> however after receiving the blue prints we extremely surprised
[13:02] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Touring in California is certainly on our common list
[13:02] <+kemi> First we thought it was a joke...,
[13:02] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Did they say why?
[13:02] <+kemi> but Kemi street is real and i think it is great, :)
[13:02] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Satyrian - Fall From Grace.
[13:02] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> It's a new block in Bakersfield were they named all streets after bands.
#06[13:03] * @RTB is enjoying the music
[13:03] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Please don't be alarmed if you are unable to speak - the chat is still moderated :)
[13:03] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Since the PM is a fan of The Dreamside he made this come true for us
[13:03] <@Dirk> if you get the chance, go there and have yourself photographed with the sign
[13:03] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> In Germany you need to be dead first
[13:03] <@SanctuaryRTBH> meep
[13:04] <@Atnevon> We're glad it was California then!
[13:04] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Okay - no dying.
[13:04] <+kemi> Yes same in Holland, dead and famous
[13:04] <@Dirk> unless you're the queen or a relative to the queen.
[13:04] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> No - Not for a street
[13:04] <+kemi> I would love to come to California
[13:04] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I think that needs to happen.
[13:05] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Where there is a will - there is a way.
#03[13:05] * Kouji is now known as heysanc
#03[13:05] * heysanc is now known as Scypher
[13:05] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes, the Dreamside Ave in fact ;-)
[13:05] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol hi scypher
[13:05] <@Atnevon> lol Roman
#03[13:05] * Scypher is now known as needvoiceage
[13:05] <+kemi> hello 
[13:06] <@RTB> Poor Scypher
#03[13:06] * needvoiceage is now known as Scy
[13:06] <@SanctuaryRTBH> What is the one place you would love to see - that you've not been yet that would complete you?
[13:06] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Mirror Moon.
[13:06] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Think it's about 4 years ago I listened to Mirror Moon last time :-)
[13:07] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Cali is one for sure - whats another?
[13:07] <+kemi> Mirror Moon produced by Roman and me
[13:07] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Roman: Shame you don't listen to your own work :p
[13:07] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> That's a difficult one...
[13:07] <@SanctuaryRTBH> shame*
[13:07] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I do. 
[13:07] <@SanctuaryRTBH> 4 years ago for a song is too long :-p
[13:07] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> But there's so much new material 
[13:08] <@RTB> Dutchie. O.o
[13:08] <@SanctuaryRTBH> okay - I can't disagree. And I hope much more to come.
[13:08] <+kemi> I do listen to my own work...., have to learn from it
[13:08] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I don't find the time to listen calmly to the old stuff
[13:08] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> [Excuses...Excuses]
[13:08] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL
[13:08] <+kemi> So thats my job then...
[13:08] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kemi: to keep Roman from finding excuses?
[13:08] <@SanctuaryRTBH> ;)
[13:08] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Place - I would love to visit Japan one day but more the rural part
[13:08] <+kemi> analyze and make it better....,
[13:09] <@SanctuaryRTBH> kemi: making it better is going to be a challenge. For sure.
[13:09] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I am listening to Mirror Moon as we speak
[13:09] <@RTB> *analyze ;]
[13:09] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> ;-)
[13:09] <@RTB> Have you been to Rome?
[13:09] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Good job Roman!
[13:09] <+kemi> yeh Sanctuary, to kick romans ass while he kicked me out the buss in Finland:)
[13:09] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes, with Kemi a few years ago
[13:09] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LMAO Kemi
[13:10] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Okay why a more rural part of Japan?
[13:10] <+kemi> You all know i am half dutch and half Italian
[13:10] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I really love the old buildings and the history that seems to be alive in Rome
[13:10] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kemi: I didn't know that.
[13:10] <+kemi> I will go to Rome tonight actually:)
[13:10] <@RTB> Ostia Antica is a wonderful place to walk in
[13:10] <@SanctuaryRTBH> very nice.
[13:11] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> From what I see on TV the cities are even more hectic then European big cities
[13:11] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Open Your Eyes.
[13:11] <+kemi> yes it is
[13:11] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I love nature
#06[13:11] * @SanctuaryRTBH blares music
[13:11] <+kemi> I love nature too but also culture....,
[13:11] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I am thrilled by the Japaneses history
[13:12] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Roman: Anything inspire that?
[13:12] <@SanctuaryRTBH> The interest?
[13:12] <+kemi> Because the Japanese are more worse then the Germans:)
[13:12] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Another place I'd love to visit is New Zealand
[13:13] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL Roman
[13:13] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> They are not
[13:13] <+kemi> Roman is going to kill me when i am back in Holland")
[13:13] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> We're terrible!
[13:13] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL you're honest. Its good!
[13:13] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> \;-)
[13:13] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> sorry ;-)
[13:13] <@SanctuaryRTBH> well on the plus - he kills you - you get a named street right?
[13:13] <+kemi> Yes New Zealand i would love to go to..., really
[13:13] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Another one
[13:14] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol
[13:14] <@SanctuaryRTBH> New Zealand would be very adventurous
[13:14] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Ever been there?
[13:14] <+kemi> that's true sanc, thanks 
[13:14] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Yw :)
[13:14] <@RTB> Gotta be careful though, you might run into Sauron.
[13:15] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I have some family there - apparently - they are insane when it comes to daredevil activities.
[13:15] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Cruxshadows - Return (Coming Home) [Dreamside Remix Part II].
[13:15] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Hey Return was actually the first remix we ever did :-)
[13:15] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> This was the second version though
[13:15] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> remix for another band I have to say
[13:15] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Rea;;y there were two?
[13:15] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes
[13:16] <@RTB> Sanct, typo mistress.
[13:16] <+kemi> Almost always we do more....,
[13:16] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I am the typo QUEEN rtb  - get it right ;)
[13:16] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> The one you hear was done with the ideas that were scrapt from the first
[13:16] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I will defend that crown too.
[13:16] <@RTB> No. :P
[13:16] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Wow - I cant imagine a scrapt song.
[13:16] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes
[13:17] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> You work and record and once you notice things don't fit into the song you keep them out
[13:17] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> If you still like them it would be a waste to not use them
[13:17] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Very true
[13:17] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> in this case it was the second remix
[13:18] <+kemi> so we have a lot of that..,
[13:18] <@WetBot> Now Playing: Cruxshadows - Return (Coming Home) [Dreamside Remix Part I].
[13:18] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Here we go :-)
[13:18] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Things you can use with later works.
[13:18] <@SanctuaryRTBH> :-o
#06[13:18] * @SanctuaryRTBH happy
[13:19] <@SanctuaryRTBH> before I forget - we had a question for you about bloodlines
[13:19] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Earlier there was the question about remixes.
[13:19] <@SanctuaryRTBH> The darker side of you both ;)
[13:19] <@SanctuaryRTBH> yes there was
[13:19] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> There was also a remix contest on Acidplanet.com
[13:19] <@SanctuaryRTBH> about - how they come into play from Mythhorn
[13:19] <+kemi> Bloodline
[13:19] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Did you enter it?
[13:19] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> We're thinking actually to organize something like that in near future again
[13:19] <@Atnevon> That we did:
[13:20] <@SanctuaryRTBH> We found The Bloodline - on myspace - that features you both
[13:20] <@Atnevon> In the way of other projects, we happened across another group that Kemi and Roman were both involved in, known  as "The Bloodline".  (Though initially when trying to research this name, we accidentally ran into a Christian group  and a group of "skinhead thugs" - which were both completely and totally unrelated to your group).  Did the work you  did together for that group influence The Dreamside as well, or were the >>
[13:20] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Roman : let us know if we can in any way help you with that okay?
[13:20] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Merijn (DRummer)  says hello to everyone. His internet is down
[13:20] <+kemi> Its a great adventure to listen to what people do with your songs and to give them a chance for exposure
[13:20] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Hi Mer!!! 
#06[13:20] * @SanctuaryRTBH waves to merv
[13:21] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes, I am not happy with the skin bloodline band. 
[13:21] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> They are Italian btw
[13:21] <@Atnevon> Hello Merijn!
[13:21] <@SanctuaryRTBH> yeah that was kinda freaky
[13:21] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Yes - in doing the search for your work "The bloodline" we ran into them and a christian choir.
[13:21] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> The Bloodline is a project I started up in 1997 with the drummer of my former band
[13:21] <@SanctuaryRTBH> opps Atnevon said that
[13:22] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> it was meant to be more of a cinematic doom project.
[13:22] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Somewhere Before.
[13:22] <+kemi> We totally have nothing to do with Skin shit, it is against everything we believe in...., just to be clear
#06[13:22] * @SanctuaryRTBH apologizes for tripping over questions at you both.
[13:22] <@Atnevon> It was unexpected how wide a variation we got from that name.
[13:23] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> The recordings were not used until Kemi heard them and told me to get in touch with our label back then and get something done with it.
[13:23] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Kemi and I continued 
[13:23] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Do you plan to do more with that?
[13:24] <+kemi> Yes but nowadays everybody can invent and copy things on the internet..., there is also a maltenese band called the dreamside...,:) but they do not exist for 14 years
[13:24] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> and it became a kind of project that offers us to do things we couldn't with the dreamside
[13:24] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes, Bloodline will continue
[13:25] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> As soon as the new Dreamside CD has been mastered 
[13:25] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Coping is not good.
[13:25] <+kemi> I love Bloodline..., there are so many shades to paint
[13:25] <@SanctuaryRTBH> So we can expect more from the Bloodline  at that point.
[13:25] <+kemi> for sure
[13:25] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> The band from Malta are called Dreamtide, aren't they?
[13:26] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes, you can
[13:26] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kemi: I found the bloodline so diverse from what I'm used to with you two. Interesting as well so I am glad you plan to continue.
[13:26] <+kemi> now roman, do your homework says the mistress
[13:26] <+kemi> :)
[13:26] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol
[13:26] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Still we are trying to surprise ourselves with what is about to come :-)
[13:26] <@Atnevon> haha! :)
[13:26] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> ouch!
[13:26] <@SanctuaryRTBH> oh oh oh a teaser!
[13:26] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Dutchie!
[13:26] <+kemi> yes you aint seen nothing yet!!!
[13:26] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol
[13:27] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kemi: Looking forward ot it!
[13:27] <+kemi> GREAT
#06[13:27] * @SanctuaryRTBH kicks keyboard again "Behave"
[13:28] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Btw, can I request songs?
[13:28] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - The Dreamside.
[13:28] <@SanctuaryRTBH> yes you can Roman
[13:28] <@Atnevon> Certainly Roman :)
[13:28] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Great
[13:28] <+kemi> we will behave nicely..., we are so sweet
[13:28] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol Kemi
[13:28] <@SanctuaryRTBH> can you make my keyboard do that too?
[13:29] <@Atnevon> Kemi, you touched on this earlier a little, but I was curious on more detail if you'd be up for sharing.  Another listener had a question for you:
[13:29] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> My two fave's from 13 are Aaron's remix of Forsaken and Stick's and Stones.
[13:29] <@Atnevon> GothicAlien said that "Slay Your Dragons is one of my favorite songs ever recorded by The Dreamside.  I was  wondering if there was a story behind your inspiration for writing the song?"
[13:29] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> so, pretty pleaaaaaseeee.
[13:29] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Kemi...?
[13:30] <+kemi> That is a very personal and heavy content..., 
[13:30] <@SanctuaryRTBH> If you arent comfortable sharing that Kemi - we completely respect and understand that.
[13:30] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> And available to everyone on Spin Moon Magic :-)
[13:30] <@SanctuaryRTBH> :_)
[13:31] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I think the majority of our songs have a personal; and rather heavy undertone
[13:31] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I can understand where you art in many ways would be very personal.
[13:31] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Roman: It comes through very well.
[13:32] <+kemi> I can not go to much into detail because i am vulnerable as i am always in my songs...., the song is about going on although you had more then enough of everything and even step over your own depth to help someone else whom you love, no matter what
[13:32] <@Atnevon> Those two are queued for you Roman :)
[13:32] <@SanctuaryRTBH> It's very powerfully emotional music
[13:32] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Excellent
[13:32] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Sticks and Stones (The Dreamside).
[13:32] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kemi: The strength of will and love :)
[13:33] <@SanctuaryRTBH> two absolute powers
[13:33] <+kemi> YEA!! so you get it Sanct.
[13:33] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I do :)
[13:33] <@SanctuaryRTBH> The song on a personal level was played to me - at a moment where my hope had gone. It brought it back.
[13:34] <@SanctuaryRTBH> :)
[13:34] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Recording Slay Your Dragons was the most difficult session ever I have to admit
[13:34] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> 'We started SMM with it
[13:35] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> stopped doing the song and it almost did not make it on the record
[13:35] <+kemi> Because the song brings sanctuary to the soul., 
[13:35] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Last week studio we finished it
[13:35] <+Roman_-_Dreamside>  and were happy we did go this road
[13:35] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I'm glad it did and it does go right to the soul. I think - had you not finished it - it would be a great loss.
[13:35] <+kemi> and i could sing and cry and sing..., man that was hard
#06[13:36] * @SanctuaryRTBH give Kemi a big hug
[13:36] <@SanctuaryRTBH> you did good.
[13:36] <+kemi> thanx:)
[13:36] <@SanctuaryRTBH> yw
[13:37] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Thinking back SYD was the first song we wrote after Mirror Moon...
[13:37] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Sorry, drifting off...
[13:37] <@SanctuaryRTBH> If you are getting tired - let us know as I for one could keep you in here forever.
[13:37] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Forsaken Moog Bass (Aaron Janinski Remix).
[13:37] <+kemi> I love that song
[13:38] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> The Moog Remix is the happiest thing ever been put on a Dreamside CD...
[13:38] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Love it
[13:38] <@SanctuaryRTBH> What makes it the happiest for you?
[13:38] <+kemi> And then we have the ultra happy Aaron Janinski remix, i danced around the house hearing it
[13:38] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Kemi, tell me again why we don't do happy music?
[13:38] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol
[13:38] <@SanctuaryRTBH> What no happy music - I disagree
[13:39] <+kemi> I really don't know roman
[13:39] <+kemi> I love to dance
[13:39] <+kemi> happy, happy joy, joy
[13:39] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> We laugh a lot
[13:39] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol 
[13:40] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Happy dancing and funny beats singing "Am I  Forsaken" is kind of weird, don't you think?
[13:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> LOL yes it is.
[13:40] <+kemi> Just that we can be powerful and then we rock, really rock, kick as. On the other side everything that happens to us, we put in our music and also our heavier moments
[13:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Where does the inspiration come from? Life?
[13:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Lie it is then
[13:40] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> From everywhere.
[13:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> life*
[13:40] <@SanctuaryRTBH> :)
[13:41] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Personally I walk through life with my eyes open.
[13:41] <+kemi> unless you sleepwalk
[13:41] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> And I love music, movies, theatre, the opera, 
[13:41] <@SanctuaryRTBH> In listening to that in the podcast - I liked it. The idea of walking through life with the eyes wide open. So many don't.
[13:41] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> books and comics
[13:41] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol @ sleepwalk
[13:41] <@Atnevon> Another listener by the name of SevenSins asked a question about Roman:
[13:41] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes?
[13:42] <+kemi> I am a bit dysfunctional, so there is some inspiration
[13:42] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kemi: aren't we all? ;)
[13:42] <@Atnevon> They asked "Since joining the band in 2001 with Mirror Moon, how do you think the band has changed, if any?"
[13:42] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kemi*
[13:42] <+kemi> yes we are but some just don't know, they are the worst\
[13:42] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Too true
[13:42] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I first worked with The Dreamside as being producer.
[13:42] <@SanctuaryRTBH> we have to won who we are. All parts.
[13:43] <@SanctuaryRTBH> own*
[13:43] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Since my background is more Rock and Metal and I believe that this is the way Kemi needed/wanted to go...
[13:43] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Apaika.
[13:43] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> the music became heavier in sound
[13:44] <+kemi> Yeh, roman always tell me i want it too loud..., now
[13:44] <+kemi> I even start to pick up the guitar
[13:44] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Often I get blamed the guitars becoming harder and harder, but actually it's Kemi who can't get enough of this ;-)
[13:44] <+kemi> sorry
[13:44] <@RTB> It's all Sancts fault anyway.
[13:45] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> The Dreamside as a live band always was harder on the albums.
[13:45] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Which is what we tried since Mirror Moon to catch in the studio
[13:45] <+kemi> it just makes so much fun live, you can really let go of energy....,
[13:45] <@SanctuaryRTBH> always my fault lol
[13:45] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Since SMM with a real drummer
[13:45] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> However back to the changes: the essence is the same
[13:46] <+kemi> But we also work on an a acoustic album..., love to sing with grand piano and violins too
[13:46] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> the shell changed from CD to CD a little
[13:46] <@SanctuaryRTBH> always evolving then. 
[13:46] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Did you find the transition into the band natural as a process?
[13:47] <+kemi> We are and always will be a diverse band, thats why the companies have problems selling us..., but we do what we believe in
[13:47] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Tracks like "Somewhere before", "Song of the Sirenes", "Slay your Dragon" could have been on Apaika too,
[13:47] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Kemi: How they find you hard to sell is a mystery to me.
[13:47] <+kemi> for sure
[13:47] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I feel that this transition as being natural
[13:47] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I've not had the chance to see you live - but I've seen footage - it's pure.
[13:48] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Footage as in "You tube" ?
[13:48] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Dreaming All of You.
[13:48] <@SanctuaryRTBH> AS in your youtube yes
[13:48] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> :-)
[13:48] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I love YouTube
[13:48] <@SanctuaryRTBH> close as I get right now - temporary setback for me :)
[13:49] <+kemi> can you not work for us then sanctuary?!!:)
[13:49] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> and I love fans being creative with our music on YouTube
[13:49] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I was really surprised to see it on youtube - so many bands get upset about it.
[13:49] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I'm trying Kemi :)
[13:49] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I wouldn't understand why...
[13:49] <@Dirk> and some bands use it for promotion.
[13:49] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I check YT each day for new stuff
[13:49] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I think copyrights - etc. They feel its another forum of pirating music.
[13:50] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Ouhhh.
[13:50] <+kemi> well it is the future so we better live with it
[13:50] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> We're in 2008 and the Internet is there
[13:50] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Strange I know - as I too see it as a great promotional tool.
[13:50] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes
[13:50] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I admit I prefer having our video's on our releases first
[13:51] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I can agree with that.
[13:51] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> OYE was on the Internet before the CD was in the stores.
[13:51] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> That's not cool
[13:51] <@SanctuaryRTBH> No thats where the issues i think come in.
[13:52] <+kemi> The only thing really is that the income is gone from being an independent artist..., i was already there before internet (old bessy me:)) but i really saw the difference
[13:52] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Its a lack of respect in my eyes and something I find a problem that needs adjusting somehow.
[13:52] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes.
[13:52] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Hey Ce Soir! Almost forgot about that one!!! One of the first tracks Kemi and I worked on
[13:52] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Ce Soir.
[13:53] <@SanctuaryRTBH> What chances would you like to see on that end of things Kemi - that would increase the ability of indy bands to stay indy?
[13:53] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> First time I worked with HD recording
[13:53] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Big difference Roman?
[13:53] <+kemi> But you know that here more or less the record companies are to blame..., they did not want to talk to the world of internet and in europe an album was/is really absurd expensive so they let go of the chance to arrange something about this new media
[13:53] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Did not understand how to back up on JAZ drives (a system that never was a succes) and we lost all the vocals. So kemi had to do it all over again.
[13:54] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> She hated me and my good old G3 for that in 1999 :-)
[13:54] <@SanctuaryRTBH> ekk Roman
[13:54] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes. Could not imagine myself without HD anymore
[13:54] <+kemi> But i did do it..., just like that
[13:54] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Do you see the records companies losing control anytime soon? *grins*
[13:54] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> 'Learned to edit tapes with razor blades
[13:55] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> That was crap
[13:55] <+kemi> they already do
[13:55] <@SanctuaryRTBH> razor blade cutting - old school and brilliant ;)
[13:55] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> :-)
[13:55] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol
[13:55] <+kemi> singles are no longer selling in europe they are thinking to skip the whole single event
[13:55] <@SanctuaryRTBH> :-o
[13:55] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Had to FX edit with a razor blade on Michael Jackson's "Beat It" 
[13:56] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Thing I got an F for it ;-)
[13:56] <@SanctuaryRTBH> oh painful
[13:56] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes
[13:56] <+kemi> sharp edges
[13:56] <@SanctuaryRTBH> *nods*
#06[13:56] * @SanctuaryRTBH hides her fingers
[13:56] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Don't like that song since then
[13:56] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> However personally I think I was just too creative
[13:57] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> and my teachers did not understand my work
[13:57] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Above Below Around (Version 2007).
[13:57] <+kemi> Romano is so creative!!!
[13:57] <@SanctuaryRTBH> sometime in experimenting that does happen.
[13:57] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> With razor blades
[13:57] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol
[13:57] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> can juggle ;-)
[13:58] <@SanctuaryRTBH> better you than me - I'm all thumbs ;)
[13:58] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Bet your teachers are thinking twice now.
[13:58] <+kemi> Dearest i have an appointment in Rome so i will have to leave you now, you have any questions left?
[13:59] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I don't believe he knows I exist. It's so long ago and he was more into things I don't know
[13:59] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Atnevon?
[13:59] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes, when are you back in the NL? 
[13:59] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I hope he does - and changes that F ;)
[13:59] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> We need to continue working on the album
[13:59] <+kemi> Monday Roman
[13:59] <@SanctuaryRTBH> oh I cant wait!
[14:00] <@Atnevon> We're through the best of them :)  It's been wonderful having you guys on board :)
[14:00] <+kemi> Yes more new stuff..,joehoe!!!
[14:00] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> I am still there
[14:00] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I have to say - yes - thank you so much for taking the time to join us today. I'm so very pleased you were able to make it.
[14:00] <@WetBot> Now Playing: The Dreamside - Fear of... Being.
[14:00] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> 14 new tracks, however Sticks and Stones and In Longing are part of it too
[14:00] <+kemi> Roman stay brave, don't tell bad things about me:) 
[14:00] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I see you Roman ;)
[14:00] <@SanctuaryRTBH> :)
[14:00] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Oh gosh, fear of being
[14:00] <+kemi> ciao everybody
[14:00] <@SanctuaryRTBH> I wont let him Kemi ;)
[14:00] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Ciao
[14:01] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Say hello to Rome
[14:01] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Bye Kemi!
[14:01] <+kemi> especially you sanct, you are a great personality
#06[14:01] * @SanctuaryRTBH waves
[14:01] <@Atnevon> It truly has been an Honor guys!
[14:01] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Awee *blushes* thanks Kemi.
[14:01] <+kemi> CIAO 
#02[14:01] * +kemi (FlashUser@83.225.241.Co634=) Quit (QUIT: User exited#)
[14:01] <@SanctuaryRTBH> WE are keeping Roman
[14:01] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Yes
[14:01] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Roman is our chip - she has to come back for him sometimes ;)
[14:02] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> Ehm...?
[14:02] <@SanctuaryRTBH> lol
[14:02] <@Atnevon> ooo.  Roman, I think you might never get away :)
[14:02] <+Roman_-_Dreamside> No, I like it here,
[14:02] <@SanctuaryRTBH> Not to worry I can cook and stuff ;)